People Who Claim Snowstorms Disprove Global Warming Don’t Understand The Difference Between Climate & Weather?

1. mortally challenged All deniers Says

   A record cold winter across the Northern Hemisphere is simply weather. An El-Nino summer is clinching proof of AGW though.
   All I see at Cancun or Copenhagen is haggling over money. Poor countries want 30 billion in addition to the welfare check they are already collecting. Kind of proves our point for us, huh?
   intemperate questions:
   I know that Bill Clinton refused to even put the Kyoto protocol before Congress. But why was China exempt from the start?
   What good is throwing away money to third world dictators? They clearly demonstrated that the only reason they are at Cancun is money.
   So let’s say I am an evil capitalist factory owner. The country my factory is based in wants to tax my emissions. What is to stop me from moving my factory to the third world where they will let me pollute all I want?

2. Jeff M Says

   You are aware that more disasterous weather occurrences are a projected outcome of a warming atmosphere are you not?
   Edit to Uncle Bonito: It’s the trend that matters. One instance doesn’t prove it one way or the other. 30 years of instances compared to 30 years of previous instances is enough to show a definite trend. If one wants to claim that one bad weather event is proof of global warming they should have a history of other bad weather trends to back up their statement. Just as one year of cold does not a trend make, 1 year of hot does not a trend make. The trend towards worse weather is a projection of global warming.

3. Moe Says

   Floods have been recognized as a major natural calamity and the country has a long history of flooding from the Indus river and its tributaries. Floods of 1928, 29, 55, 57, 59, 73, 76, 88, 92, 95, 96 & that of 1997 are the sad yet memorable events entailing tremendous damages to the life and property.
   Just one place experiencing extreme weather yet this location and every other location pointed to by the social justice crowd shows a history of the same weather pattersn, OH BUT THEY ARE MORE EXTREME NOW!! Every area that has suffered from the increase in extreme weather events has coincidently suffered the same in the past, not way back in the past but within a human lifetime. There isn’t a single extreme weather event that is out of the ordinary from past weather events, where you can’t find some sort of human ignorance that made it worse, yet we are suppose to believe these etreme wheather events are a result of our industrialization, CO2 induced catastrophies. We are also suppose to believe that only poor countries are being effected by extreme weather and if you don’t want to take responsibility then you are insensitive and greedy. I’m sick and tired of hearing about poor countries whos populations are exploding being effected by weather events that could easily be mitigated by picking a different location to live, not having half a dozen children that are forced to live in the substandard conditions and/or building a proper infrastructure to handle the KNOWN variations in weather that occur on a regular basis.

4. Dawei Says

   There is a difference between pointing to a single event and drawing a conclusion, and predicting that a certain event will occur more frequently. I don’t agree that one can conclude that the fires or heatwaves were caused by AGW, but such events have been predicted to increase since the 1980′s. So it’s perfectly accurate to say that these events are consistent with what you would expect.
   Not to mention that the people who point to snow and day AGW is a lie are usually being stupid for other reasons as well, such as believing heavy precipitation = deep cold. Really bizarre when you think about it, since I don’t think anyone has ever heard about a heavy rain event and thought “boy it must be hot there.”

5. Jeff M Says

   I have to agree. People continue to shout global warming this year because the east coast had some record warm weather. However the southerm hemisphere south american specifically has had a VERY difficult winter.
   The pacific is headed into a VERY deep la nina. Why do the warmers simply ignore this info? Is it only because it points to the opposite of thier claims? This is not scientific.

6. Peter Says

   The global warming theroy computer models say that there will be no more snow stormes except at higher elevations. So a major snow storm like the ones the east coast got last winter prove the theory worng. It doesn’t disprove global warming it just proves the AGW models wrong. But then that is like shooting fish in a barrel, not very hard to do.

7. linlyons Says

   Bad comparison.
   snow outside someone’s door is not an indication of global warming/cooling/anything.
   multiple widely separated events around the globe are not proof of global warming.
   repeated instances of such, in multiple years, are a more likely prognosticator of the future of climate.
   But what did the article say?
   “Science will show whether and how those events are related to climate change caused by humanity’s greenhouse-gas emissions, but the point is clear: We cannot afford to face escalating disasters of that kind.”
   < >
   That’s the difference.
   you consistently claim that it’s not warming.
   you have nothing to back up your claim.
   Nothing at all.
   The last decade has been the hottest in the modern era.
   And the one before that the 2nd hottest.
   Clearly it’s warming.
   Measured CO2 has increased to levels higher than any in the last million years.
   The science of CO2 induced warming is quite clear.http://www.rkm.com.au/ANIMATIONS/carbon-… < == here's the physics. http://www.rsc.org/images/CA1_tcm18-1379… < == Word doc. Page 6 shows where H2O and CO2 intercept different wavelengths
   scream and shout all you want.
   burning coal and oil is a serious problem.
   Bob, nice cartoon.http://dailybayonet.com/wp-content/uploa…
   not reality, but nice anyway.

8. sci Says

   People who claim heat waves on the East Coast prove Global Warming do not understand the difference between Climate and Weather.
   We can regulate to our hearts desire, but then all our jobs will move offshore and the pollution just gets produced in another country. Untill some one wants to do something about Population control ity doesn’t matter what we do. So quit worrying, you have no impact at all.
   Old Guy

9. Bob Says

   This cartoon sums it uphttp://dailybayonet.com/wp-content/uploa…

10. gunplumb Says

    “People who claim snowstorms disprove global warming don’t understand the difference between climate & weather.”
    Yes, I’d have to agree with that statement.

11. s_ boomboom Says

    global warming is a global term wich asks you to cointain obtain or dectrae somthing from nothing which is a big problem nowdayz

12. Iknowthi Says

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13. Trevor Says

    It appears to me that you’re demonstrating your own unwillingness to differentiate between weather and climate, and this manifests itself in your attempt to create a comparison where one does not exist.
    The report you linked to is not referencing a single weather event, rather it is focussing on global climatic trends. Herein lies a fundamental difference between those who accept, and those who deny, that climate change is happening.
    You appear to be distorting reality in order to validate a baseless claim.
    Let’s look at some facts.
    Last winter there were heavy snowfalls and cold temperatures. The deniers immediately cited this as being proof that there was no global warming and / or that the world was cooling. There are hundreds of instances of this on Answers alone.
    The same claim was incessantly repeated and each time the deniers rallied around the claimant in support. There was no attempt at rationality from the deniers and you will be hard pressed to find examples of deniers being honest enough to admit that the cold spell was caused by a weather anomaly.
    Contrast that with the recent heatwaves and flooding events. There have been several instances of people asking if this is a consequence of global warming, time and again those who understand the concepts of climate change have explained that these events should not, in themselves, be seen as being indicative of anything.
    So on the one hand we have the deniers jumping up and down and loudly proclaiming that cold weather disproves global warming and on the other hand we have the believers stating that hot weather proves nothing. Which side do you think is displaying the most honesty, rationality and integrity?
    Now, those of a denier mentality will reject the statements I’ve made above because their denialist approach will prohibit them from identifying themselves as possessing the negative qualities common amongst deniers. However, the proof is at your fingertips, you only need to compare and contrast the questions and answers that were posted during the cold weather six months ago with the more recent hot weather.

14. Joe Joyce Says

    It would hold true if the claims were similar. Since they are not, no, the UN chief is right and the people who say snow proves there’s no global warming are wrong. Very simple.
    Kindly note the difference between a snowstorm and a disaster. Where are you from, Florida? I’m from New York, so it’s heat waves that get me. However, a snowstorm is not always a major blizzard. A wind is not always a tornado or hurricane. A wave is not always a tsunami. Orders of magnitude are important. Let me illustrate.
    You’re walking along the street and somebody bumps into you at 2 miles per hour, it’s “Oops, excuse me!” and no harm done. If you stepped into the road and got hit by a bicyclist going 20 mph, you are hurt, and possibly rather badly. If you’re at NASCAR and a crash throws a tire into the crowd at 200 mph, and it hits you, you are dead or maimed for what’s left of your life. Orders of magnitude. The amount of energy that goes into something is important.
    The amount of energy that’s pouring into the earth and getting stored in the oceans, land, and air is vast. It adds punch to every storm. Like Emeril and “Let’s kick it up a notch… BAM!” Global warming provides the “BAM!”
    A lot of people don’t pay attention to the numbers. Some people even lie about the numbers to mislead others. But if you look at all the actual numbers, it’s easy to see the vast differences in the two statements compared in the question.

15. Moonshine Sunsparkle Says

    Global warming… just a rise in .01 degrees Farenheit is enough to cause ice caps to melt and sea levels to rise, flooding the world, make perfect sense, even though that is a normal fluctuation.

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